David Bagby Obituary (2022) - Statesville, NC - Statesville Record Some of, those frames even at the dollar stores will say--there'll be little sayings on, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) if you want to say `Mommy and Daddy' on a. frame and stick a picture of me and Andrew in it, I don't know. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. While that change felt good, David wanted more. -, "To give you an idea how powerful it is, I'll just say that there was a lot of audible sobbing during the credits.and the first question in the Q&A started like this: "First of all, holy crap. We need each other, have each other to get through this.". Kathryn Schulz, reviewing Making a Murderer recently inThe New Yorker, described howtrue-crime projects can allow for bias to masquerade as objectivity and for people (particularly victims and their families) to be reduced to plot points. David Bagby - IMDb Its been more than 10 years since the Bagbys have been back to Newfoundland and Labrador. MORRISON: But then things changed. They held their breath. SCREAMS. And if that picture never reveals itself, it feels like a letdown, not a tragedy. And then, November 2001, Andrew Bagby was shot dead in a state park not far from the hospital in which the young doctor was a resident, and his devoted parents all but lost the will to live. Slamdance Film Festival book signing! to reconsider getting some help with that. We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. The amount of the award will be variable, but is expected to be in the range of $1,000. (David speaking to reporters; Kate speaking to reporters; David on radio show; "Dear Zachary" poster; Kurt editing video; photo of Andrew; photo of Zachary; Mr. KUENNE: I almost gave up making this film when you were, killed. (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' Shortly after his death, she fled to Canada and settled back in St. Johns. MORRISON: But as Kurt made his way around the globe, his tribute materialized into something far bigger, and much darker, than anyone could have imagined. Typically, we meet the victim not as a person but as a dismantled puzzle to be put back together by the canny viewer, who is likewise appealed to not as a person hearing about a human catastrophe but as an analytical machine capable of sorting and weighing the relevant facts. A huge chunk of the remainder of Dear Zachary is the Canadian justice system treating the Bagbys like common criminals while the actual criminal is given a breathtaking amount of freedom. MORRISON: But was that what you assumed had happened? Very, very serious. MORRISON: The Bagbys said that Shirley would later apologize for, her reaction. ', MORRISON: When Dr. Andrew Bagby's bullet-riddled corpse was, found in a Pennsylvania state park in November 2001, his devastated parents. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' Zachary, how's our baby today? I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. -, "This documentary will rip out your heart and leave you in the snow without a sweater. It, (Photo of Shirley; Shirley, Zachary and David; photos of Shirley and Zachary). Also, by popular demand, a new printing of David Bagby's book "Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss" featuring Dear Zachary's poster art on its cover is now in stores. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson, California After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. That's what Kurt does, he's an independent filmmaker. (Photo of Andrew and Kurt; Kurt editing film; collection of videotapes with, Mr. KUENNE: It was no longer just my search for what was left of, (Collection of videotapes of raw footage), Mr. KUENNE: I thought, I'm kind of the keeper of all this footage that is. Except this story is worse. We couldnt actually believe shed (harm Zachary), but we consciously feared she could do that, he said. Gruesome details, abstruse discoveries, and personal secrets are examined with a seemingly cold and impartial eye in the light of the promise that, if seen rightly, they can yield up a picture of the truth. Oh, my God. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. The Bagbys prove it is possible for a woman to kill your child and for you to forge a civil relationship with that woman in order to protect another. kate-and-david-bagby-now-pdf 2/27 Downloaded from thesource2.metro.net on July 22, 2022 by guest the recent London bombings to Law and Order type crimes that make the news only to be replaced by another name.As such, more people are left with the aftermath of dealing with the violent death of a loved one. The bill is called C-464 - An Act to amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. Maybe the last time you talked to Shirley there was some very subtle change in tone. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' 'Dear Zachary' Is A Greek Tragedy Come To Life | Defector Nearly 2 decades after the murder of a physician and his son a legacy How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? Bagbys wondered if there might ever be an extradition hearing. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' sixteen years have passed but for the bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. dropping Shirley and their grandboy off at her son T.J.'s home (Photo of Zachary sleeping in car seat; streets passing), KATE: She said, `Wake up, Zachary and say goodbye to your grandparents.'. Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbysthe story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number Mr. SIMPSON: And he said, `I'm going to need to catch up with you, and we're going to have to do some serious talking.' I would have to dream up some reason to go over, there in the middle of the night, to--for me to just appear on her doorstep, Mr. BAGBY: Turned out I wasn't. would be the difference if one person weren't alive? A court mandate allowed David and Kate Bagby to spend time, with their grandson, babysitting, even sharing in joint activities with. Right? One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. But he was moved to honor his friend the best way he knew how, by making a film. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. did. If nothing else is accomplished with this film, it will absolutely attach you to the too-short life that was Andrew Bagby's, and you're going to be sad that you didn't get a chance to know him -- but glad all the same that you know ABOUT him now." His father says, I kissed him and held him. December 10, 2007: MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss - Goodreads He's a little bleary eyed, but. The victims choices, preferences, actions, and relationships are either boiled down to a heap of clues and red herrings, or offered as a backdrop in a spirit of dutiful empathy before getting down to the business at hand. Mr. KUENNE: He warmed up to me as the--as the week wore on, MORRISON: But the Bagbys were especially anxious. Also foreshadowing is how long it takes Andrews parents, Kate and David, to wade through various levels of bureaucracy to confirm his death. PDF Bail bill inspired by Bagby's murdered grandson And this is where director Kurt Kuenne is really smart. Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta will be the bill's sponsor in the Senate, and will shortly be distributing DVDs of "Dear Zachary" to all members of the Senate, just as he and MP Andrews distributed the film to all members of the House of Commons last fall when he introduced the bill. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. With that kind of goodness, there is no limit to the possibility of transcending all manner of evil. KATE: And she went over in the corner crying, and I gave him back. See details above! My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. We did have him for a little while, she said. Pain, loss never end after tragedy strikes couple - East Bay Times And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Memorial University Medical School. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. It stays so close to Bagby and to the people who loved him that theres never any question that its their side of the story being recounted. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. MORRISON: She kept trying to get between you and the baby. She was coming here to take care of me. 1 suspect was his estranged girlfriend, Shirley Turner, also a medical doctor, who was raised in western Newfoundland and was then practicing in Iowa. 1 Photo. I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. They also went to Ottawa to push the case for Bill C-464, which had been introduced by then Liberal MP Scott Andrews, at a committee hearing. (A huge thanks to the folks at Different by Design in Los Angeles, CA and Anarchy Post in Glendale, CA for making this possible and affordable.). news about his mother and baby brother, and was slammed with instant blowback. thoughts, his wife sees something that rocks her to the core. And he was crying, so I went into the ladies room and sat there, KATE: Made her very angry. MORRISON: And, says T.J., in the way of her opportunities to be. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. Mr. BAGBY: We first got to see him personally in family court. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. Mr. KURT KUENNE (Director): I decided to go on the road to interview people, because I thought, you know, he's never going to have a wedding. At least he might have asleep when she went in. Awaiting extradition, Turner drowned 13-month-old Zachary and took her own life as well. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. Imagine it. MORRISON: When T.J. heard about Andrew's murder Mr. SHEARS: I just figure, `OK, well, he was in America. I--we both did. kate and david bagby still living And he's like, `I'm not looking for anything serious. And you just bought the gun, right? KATE: It was shocking, but not a surprise. So we called, and he came over and told us that Zachary and Shirley were. Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. MORRISON: Two weeks after Andrew's murder, cell phone records, would show that Shirley Turner drove all the way from Iowa to Andrew's, neighborhood in Pennsylvania, arrived there the day of the murder, and then, she, or at least her cell phone, returned to Iowa. Meeting her at 6. In January, the film was nominated for Best Documentary by both the Chicago Film Critics Association and the Online Film Critics Society, who also nominated writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne for Breakthrough Filmmaker of 2008. He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. MORRISON: Andrew Bagby. MORRISON: As Kurt tracked down Andrew's friends for the documentary he was making, he discovered that not a one had anything favorable to say about Shirley. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson - SaltWire Djing. June 25, 2008: thing, because up until Andrew was murdered, I was a Pollyanna. Bring lots of kleenex and prepare to be equally angry and emotionally drained as you watch real, so-called justice in action. And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. -Managed leading Egyptian companies' accounts with the firm, including in the oil and gas, financial, consumer goods, real estate and automotive sectors. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again. David Bagby. But afterwards, all wounded and broken down, you will see the power of the human spirit even in the face of the darkest of souls." The Bagbys could scarcely believe. I praise Kurt Kuenne for having the heart and determination to perfectly put together one of the most powerful documentaries I have ever watched. Tessa Bagby - Producer, 1st Assistant Director - LinkedIn MORRISON: Andrew tried to make a clean break with Shirley in October 2001. September 28, 2008: KATE: I thought, `Well, God, this is it.' Unidentified Woman #12: We won't forget their son. Read the DocuWeek Q&A with writer/director/composer Kurt Kuenne HERE. because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. It didn't clue in, MORRISON: T.J. says while he was touched that she'd shown up at, the hospital, he was also a little surprised. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. -, "**** (Four stars). January 28, 2008: Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. After the pregnancy came to light, the film became a way to introduce Zachary to his father. And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. MORRISON: Must have seemed like the enemy was in the camp. Kuenne began making Dear Zachary before Turner revealed her pregnancy. Kuennes fast-talking exposition, while confusing, seems purposeful, as though the murder were a necessary backstory to be pushed through as quickly as possible in order to get to the heart of the narrative: Andrew Bagbys life and how horrible his death was for those who loved him. Murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner - Wikipedia In New York - August 8-14 at the IFC Center, 323 Sixth Avenue at W. 3rd Street. It had happened almost surely the last, night they were together, and DNA tests would later prove that Andrew was, (Supreme Court exterior; court in progress; house exterior; Shirley and Shears. They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). They're like, `What do you mean?' Zachary, I love you, baby. You can reach out to David Bagby-cantu via phone number 915-383-8358. They've retired, hang out with friends and travel a bit, David Bagby said. Dear Zachary had its Canadian premiere at the Hot Docs International Documentary Film Festival in Toronto, where it was welcomed by a line down the street and around the block to get in. Lori Kaufman rw. MORRISON: When somebody tells you that your mother may have--was a suspect Mr. SHEARS: No, it has to be a mistake. We need each other, have each other to get through this, added David. Andrew came to St. John's. You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. The Bagbys were compelled to ensure what happened to their son and grandson never happens again. Shirley. (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. Is it OK? I, was like, `Hi, buddy.' MORRISON: And then, in the spring of 1995, Andrew found someone, a Newfoundlander, also a doctor in training, a woman named Shirley Turner. He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. With that powerful, evidence, Shirley Turner was formally charged with Andrew's murder and, arrested by Newfoundland police. Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. In Los Angeles - August 22-28 at the Arclight Hollywood, 6360 Sunset Blvd. Woman #9: to make that journey was awful. When Kuenne narrates the particulars of the crime, the evidence, or the legal proceedings, his voiceover shifts to a stylized, rapid-fire clip, making it easy for the audience to miss key details. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. -, "It's Kate and David Bagby who are the moral center of this film. Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. Unidentified Woman #11: I love them very much. Cpl. When he returned to the States, Shirley showed up soon after. I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father - Wikipedia Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. Amazon | B&N None of his friends liked Turner because she was often inappropriate and even harassed one of Bagbys exes and just generally appeared to be an incredibly unstable, crude, and unlikeable personbasically Bagby's exact opposite. For an optimal experience visit our site on another browser. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. Dear Zachary recently won the Sigma Delta Chi Award for Best Documentary of 2008 from the Society of Professional Journalists. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a son about his father MORRISON: In July 2003, a year and eight months after their son's, murder, Andrew's friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, who'd been making the, documentary film for Zachary about the father he'd never know, arrived in. Cpl. And that's when she said, `He loves you, more than me. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. The apparent culprit was a woman named Shirley Turner, whom Bagby had dated but had broken up with on November 4th, in Latrobe, just before putting her on a plane to Council Bluffs, Iowa, where she lived at the time. I had this overwhelming feeling. One for such a wonderful young man that you raised. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Was it a tight bond? Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories: But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. This report aired Dateline Friday, July 23. you have anywhere to put that, or that Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Not yet. MORRISON: Andrew was the only child of software engineer David Bagby and his wife, Kate, a nurse practitioner. If I, just kill her, Zachary will be safe. Dance with the Devil is David Bagby's . When Bagby said he was going to anyway, Simpson asked him to come to his house right after. It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. Oh, my. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. You take it with you, but you move on, said David. Both screenings received sustained standing ovations, and the Toronto audience applauded yet again when director Kurt Kuenne announced that he had sent letters to every member of Parliament requesting the opportunity to screen the film for them. I would really like for you and Kate. In this way, Dear Zachary inverts the usual way of telling murder stories. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. Creating stronger communities. January 15, 2008: Because this is where you need it. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). I didn't even know why I was going, other than Mom didn't want. KATE: You get a different kind of relationship with God after this kind of. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. I mean, the best man is really the groom. Cpl. I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. (Photo of Shirley; Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary), Mr. SHEARS: There was a conversation one time she had with me and Erica, in, regards to if something ever happened to her and she had to go to jail or. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. Believing that even where there is evil, there is also a tremendous amount of good." to let out hints that Shirley Turner was the prime suspect. American authorities asked Canadian, authorities to send her back to the US, which would require an extradition, hearing. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. Both screenings were sold out and received sustained standing ovations, an exceptionally rare event in the 14 year history of Slamdance. Click HERE for ticket information. Bad things tend not to announce themselves, they just kind of land right on your head. Add a bio, trivia, and more. Digital: iTunes | Amazon | Google Play, Order David Bagby's book "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. -, "When this haunting, shattering film made its premiere at Park City's Slamdance Film Festival, it received the most sustained ovation of any film I saw this year in Park City. Understood? I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. He said, `The psychotic bitch. Curated newsletters for curious minds. TO ME ITS REAL LIFE. Dear Zachary avoids the first pitfall by directly confronting the second. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. It was made to tell a story and to capture forever the life of one man and the many people he touched. (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. Slain tot's grandparents welcome new bail law | CBC News And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess.

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